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Skrevet af Michael Flarup   
Onsdag, 19. januar 2011 09:15

De kommende weekender får svømmerne i DK lidt at se til - især de helt unge!

 

Fredag til søndag i den kommende weekend er der DÅM-K (grp. 1) i Esbjerg


Tidsplan
http://www.svoem.dk/resultatfiler/5221/D%C3%85M_gr1_overordnet_tidsplan.pdf

Livetiming
http://www.livetiming.fi/index.php?cid=648?〈=2

Unionens hjemmeside
http://www.svoem.dk/t2w_383.asp

 

Weekenden efter står mange klar til Lyngby Open - et stævne der har fået større betydning for mange svømmere i DK, pga tidspunktet og langbanen.

 

Information

http://lsk.dk/UserFiles/File/2011/Lyngby%20Open/LyngbyOpen_Dansk2011_v2.pdf

 

Livetiming

http://www.livetiming.dk/index.php?cid=636

 

...Og så slutter de unge svømmere af med et holdmesterskab - hvor der sikkert er mange der er trætte og ikke formår at levere tilstrækkelige præstationer. I den sammenhæng må man undre sig over hvorfor man har ændret netop denne korte tidsperiode mellem DM-K og DHM for de ældste (formentlig fordi det var dårligt placeret for deres præstationer) og så gør det med de unge...

 

Information

Nyborg http://www.svoem.dk/t2w_383.asp

Kastrup http://www.svoem.dk/t2w_383.asp

 

Livetiming

Nyborg http://www.livetiming.dk/index.php?cid=653

Kastrup http://www.livetiming.dk/index.php?cid=668

 

Rigtig god fornøjelse!

 

 

 

Kommentarer  

 
+2 #9 Ricki Clausen 2011-01-24 23:26 Pretty alarming - but we have to presume the federation has investigated this thoroughly and is keeping up to speed… Citater
 
 
+4 #8 Michele Greb 2011-01-23 09:54 Don't we have Danish swimmers off to Mexico shortly?

http://www.winnipegsun.com/comment/columnists/mercedes_stephenson/2011/01/21/16985961.html

Violence has gotten really bad there. Mexico is in the middle of a drug war, and that now includes the resort areas.
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+10 #7 Anders Møller 2011-01-21 14:12 jeg tænker så hvorfor man overhovedet skulle til at lave det om? synes selv (da jeg var årgangssvømmer frem til og med 2007) at det var da et helt rimeligt program!
hvorfor i alverden så lægge et DÅM på et tidspunkt hvor INGEN af topsvømmerne BURDE være toppet og tilmed på en tid af året hvor folk født oktober-december ikke på nogen måde har samme mulighed for kvalifikation som svømmere født i årets første halvdel.

imo burde man "bare" gå tilbage til det gamle skema og lægge ét regionalt stævne i starten af foråret og så de danske mesterskaber i juni. Derefter kommer jo så DM-h Årgang til sidst på året, som jeg ikke ser specielt højt prioriteret og ret ligegyldigt eftersom topsvømmerne ligger i træning mod de nationale mesterskaber for junior- og seniorsvømmere. så skulle DÅM måske lægges senere på året (måske samme tid som et DM-k, eller kort tid inden)
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+6 #6 Flarup 2011-01-20 19:48 So true Michele Citater
 
 
+8 #5 Michele Greb 2011-01-20 11:06 This is true, Michael. Sorry for spamming the topic Age group is near and dear to my heart though.

But it bothers me that coaches are expected to set their training plans in advance, well in advance, and with a view to long-term athlete development (and we know we are talking years of developing for age group swimmers) only to get a look at the late-arriving national competition schedule with dates that just cannot possibly be supported by a proper training plan. Perhaps a couple of the country's top age group coaches should be spoken with by whomever sets the age-group national schedule, so their planning cycles can be looked at? Might help set competition dates more appropriately.

Now, an inappropriate competition schedule is not going to stop concientious coaches from planning properly. And it sure won't stop those same coaches from taking their swimmers to competitions if and only if the timing of said competition fits within the training cycles.

The weekend before Christmas does not fit within my training cycle. Saying that placing a competition there is to prevent overly long vacation time is just, well… not a good thing to say We took 4 days off over Christmas/New Year, ran 2x/day otherwise. So did many other clubs.

The weekend before school vacation is not a good time for a competition.

ATK, so much money spent on it, to push it through here. "In the best interests of the swimmers" goes hand in hand with ATK and LTAD. Money where your mouth is time, I am thinking.
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+8 #4 Flarup 2011-01-20 09:35 Selvfølgelig kan man "bare" lade være med at deltage - men det er jo ikke det der er problemet. Det er et problem at man har placeret alle årgangsstævner uhensigtsmæssig t.

…og ja, bliver det ikke ændret næste år vil det få mange konsekvenser i min planlægning af sæsonen.
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+5 #3 Michele Greb 2011-01-20 07:03 Ricki, it's okay to write in your own language Thank you for the courtesy though. Very kind of you.

It is really a relief to see a large club saying this. Smaller clubs, anywhere, are not taken as seriously as larger clubs.

If we look at the placement of DMH-A it is pretty obvious it is a far from optimal time. A week after Lyngby, a week before most school vacations and training camps. How much can we stress our swimmers and their parents? People are very aware of such things these days. That is aside from the seasonal planning perspective and swimming technical factors.

Then one must look at the type of competition being offered. Will it be the same competitors as the competition the weekend before? Yes? Well, we can pass. No? Maybe we go but back to back competitions are suuuuch a bad thing to get optimal performance from age-groupers.

I haven't a clue who sets competition schedules in Denmark, but I am pretty certain (without wanting to start a flame war or to make it sound like I am calling anyone a ninny) that specifically the age-group schedule can be done much better. By age group coaches. Many of us will have sat and scratched our heads and re-written it already

And dates changing, no hosts, not enough officials, "championship" competitions that are not really championships (I think we can all agree that championships for competitive swimming are those that have qualifying times, heats and finals, yes?)… Coaches put a lot of advance planning into their training, so they can give their swimmers the best possible performance state.

Surely those selfame swimmers deserve the same sort of competition schedule planning from… whomever… and the best possible performance environment.

More random pre-morning practice ramblings
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+11 #2 Ricki Clausen 2011-01-19 22:19 Agreed, Michelle!

No one is obligated to participate in any meet. We (in my club Køge) are contemplating not participating in short course nationals next year because the travelling time to Thisted is very long and the cost compared to the output is questionable - because we have a very good meet at home at the same time.

I think all clubs need to think and prioritize as the swimming section in the federation arranges more and more meets to meet (he he) the economic expectations of the elite section.

The ancient slogan from the US to the drug abuse was: "Just say no!"

The reply to all these meets could be: "Just don't go!"

We didn't go in december for the age group regionals. That was probably the best decision ever… judging from the very eager kids we have now as well as the feedback from other clubs.

/Clausen
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+8 #1 Michele Greb 2011-01-19 12:32 No one is obligated to go the age group team competition. If it doesn't fit the seasonal plan for a club, it's simple: don't go. Timing is far from great and really, the event selection is not so good. I am still trying to figure out why Denmark has such a thing. Someone tell me what the reason is please? If it is to find out who is the best age group club then it is much much easier to just go look at the rankings. Cheaper too. And faster.

And as far as Lyngby goes… who has been getting the emails on this competition? Stadion finished at 23.30 on Friday? And the littles done at 22.30. Hugely over-subscribed competition, apparently due to their website having issues so they extended the entry deadline. I don't think that will happen again.

2011 is off to a stellar organizational start
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